Discussion:
[BlueObelisk-discuss] The last Blue Obelisk manuscript ; TeX help wanted
Peter Murray-Rust
2014-07-09 06:46:07 UTC
Permalink
Dear List,
We are republishing the Blue Obelisk paper as part of a volume published by
Open Forum Europe (of which I am a Fellow). [See below]

Unfortunately the manuscript (which came from our DSpace) can't be read by
normal TeX readers. It's clearly a TeX document. Could someone [a] reformat
it so it works (I guess this is 5 mins max for an expert) and [b] explain
what has happened - repositories are meant to preserve things for re-use :-)

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Shane Coughlan <***@openforumeurope.org>
wrote:

> Hi Peter
>
> I can't reformat the document manually including all headings, footnotes
> etc. within reasonable time constraints. I need a version ready for word
> processing in ODT, DOC or PAGES format.
>
> I got the Tex document as per your mail in February:
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> > From: Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk>
> > Subject: Re: Your chapter for the OFA book
> > Date: February 4, 2014 at 19:10:53 GMT+9
> > To: Shane Coughlan <***@openforumeurope.org>
> >
> > It was written in TeX and we have archived it and the BibTeX at:
> > https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/handle/1810/238393
> > Hope that hacks it.
> > I will be happy to add commentary if that's useful.
>
> It won't compile on my end for conversion to any word processing document.
>
> Regards
>
> Shane
>
> On Jul 9, 2014, at 15:30 , Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > It opens in a text editor and can be read by humans. It seems to be
> copy of our BMC article (which is CC-BY and as such can be reproduced
> verbatim). My guess is that a small LaTeX tweak might be required. Where
> did it come from? - was there another person involved?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Shane Coughlan <
> ***@openforumeurope.org> wrote:
> > Dear all
> >
> > Please find attached the first PDF draft of the new OpenForum Academy
> book (reference exports in ODT, DOC and PAGES available).
> >
> > The chapters already in are:
> > Architecting the Future of Research Communication: Building the
> Models and Analytics for an Open Access Future
> > By Cameron Neylon
> > Standards and Sustainable Infrastructures: > Matching
> Compatibility Strategies with System Flexibility Objectives
> > By Tineke M. Egyedi
> > Four dimensions affecting policy resistance in IT procurement
> > By Mathieu Paapst
> > E-Governance in Public Sector > ICT Procurement: What is Shaping
> Practice in Sweden?
> > By Bjorn Lundell
> >
> > And chapters pledged:
> > Andy Updegrove, Introduction to the book
> > Andrew Adams, The Open vs Closed Debate
> > Andrew Katz, Towards a Functional Licence for Open Hardware
> > Jochen Friedrich, Untitled
> > All, please send in your chapters as soon as possible in ODT or DOC
> format.
> >
> > Plus I have one problem chapter:
> > Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards in chemistry: The Blue
> Obelisk five years on
> > By Peter Murray-Rust
> > Peter, I can't get my LaTex tools to open this document as provided
> (attached). I get errors when I attempt to do so and this makes conversion
> impossible. Can you provide it in a ODT, RTF or DOC format?
> >
> > All authors, please check the draft for errors and necessary corrections.
> >
> > I would like to try and finish the book by end of July at latest so
> submissions would need to arrive two weeks before that.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Shane
> >
> >
> > On Jun 5, 2014, at 20:08 , Shane Coughlan <***@openforumeurope.org>
> wrote:
> > > Dear all
> > >
> > > I want to reboot our book. It's been pending a while. Some chapters
> are in, some chapters are pledged as below. Just a reminder: this book will
> be a collection of previously published research around Open Innovation to
> complement our book of essays around the topic last year.
> > >
> > > If you have pledged a chapter, can you give me a timescale for
> submitting it? I would like to try and wrap up submissions for end of month.
> > >
> > > Also, I wanted to double-check with Chris Marsden and Jochen Friedrich
> if you would be interested in providing a chapter consisting of previously
> published work?
> > >
> > > Finally, if anyone else wants to submit a chapter of previously
> published work, now is the moment to speak up.
> > >
> > > The chapters already in are:
> > > Mathieu Paapst, Four dimensions affecting policy resistance in IT
> procurement
> > > Cameron Neylon, 2012: The year it all changed in open access
> > > Tineke M. Egyedi, Standards and Sustainable Infrastructures: Matching
> Compatibility Strategies with System Flexibility Objectives
> > > Peter Murray-Rust, Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards in
> chemistry: The Blue Obelisk five years on
> > > Andrew Katz, Towards a Functional Licence for Open Hardware
> > >
> > > And chapters pledged:
> > > Andrew Adams, The Open vs Closed Debate
> > > Karsten Gerloff, Title pending
> > > Andy Updegrove, Introduction to the book
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Shane
> > >
> > >
> > > <Four Dimensions - OFA
> EDITION.docx><Egyedi_Standards_Sustain_Infras_Comp_Strategies_Felx_Obj.docx><Nature-Commentary2012.docx>
> > > --
> > > Shane Coughlan
> > > Fellow Coordinator
> > > OpenForum Academy
> > > e: ***@openforumeurope.org
> > > p: +81 (0) 80 4035 8083
> > > w: www.openforumeurope.org
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Shane Coughlan
> > Fellow Coordinator
> > OpenForum Academy
> > e: ***@openforumeurope.org
> > p: +81 (0) 80 4035 8083
> > w: www.openforumeurope.org
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
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> group.
> >
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> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Murray-Rust
> > Reader in Molecular Informatics
> > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> > University of Cambridge
> > CB2 1EW, UK
> > +44-1223-763069
>
> --
> Shane Coughlan
> Fellow Coordinator
> OpenForum Academy
> e: ***@openforumeurope.org
> p: +81 (0) 80 4035 8083
> w: www.openforumeurope.org
>
>

--
Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
+44-1223-763069
Egon Willighagen
2014-07-09 06:54:14 UTC
Permalink
Dear Peter, Shane,

Without having seen the error messages, I would guess she is missing
the BioMed Central template...

Shane, the full source code, including BioMed Central templates, can
be found here: https://github.com/bopaper/bopaper

Egon

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Dear List,
> We are republishing the Blue Obelisk paper as part of a volume published by
> Open Forum Europe (of which I am a Fellow). [See below]
>
> Unfortunately the manuscript (which came from our DSpace) can't be read by
> normal TeX readers. It's clearly a TeX document. Could someone [a] reformat
> it so it works (I guess this is 5 mins max for an expert) and [b] explain
> what has happened - repositories are meant to preserve things for re-use :-)
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Shane Coughlan <***@openforumeurope.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> I can't reformat the document manually including all headings, footnotes
>> etc. within reasonable time constraints. I need a version ready for word
>> processing in ODT, DOC or PAGES format.
>>
>> I got the Tex document as per your mail in February:
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> > From: Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk>
>> > Subject: Re: Your chapter for the OFA book
>> > Date: February 4, 2014 at 19:10:53 GMT+9
>> > To: Shane Coughlan <***@openforumeurope.org>
>> >
>> > It was written in TeX and we have archived it and the BibTeX at:
>> > https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/handle/1810/238393
>> > Hope that hacks it.
>> > I will be happy to add commentary if that's useful.
>>
>> It won't compile on my end for conversion to any word processing document.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Shane
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2014, at 15:30 , Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>> > It opens in a text editor and can be read by humans. It seems to be
>> > copy of our BMC article (which is CC-BY and as such can be reproduced
>> > verbatim). My guess is that a small LaTeX tweak might be required. Where did
>> > it come from? - was there another person involved?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Shane Coughlan
>> > <***@openforumeurope.org> wrote:
>> > Dear all
>> >
>> > Please find attached the first PDF draft of the new OpenForum Academy
>> > book (reference exports in ODT, DOC and PAGES available).
>> >
>> > The chapters already in are:
>> > Architecting the Future of Research Communication: Building the
>> > Models and Analytics for an Open Access Future
>> > By Cameron Neylon
>> > Standards and Sustainable Infrastructures:
> Matching
>> > Compatibility Strategies with System Flexibility Objectives
>> > By Tineke M. Egyedi
>> > Four dimensions affecting policy resistance in IT procurement
>> > By Mathieu Paapst
>> > E-Governance in Public Sector
> ICT Procurement: What is Shaping
>> > Practice in Sweden?
>> > By Bjorn Lundell
>> >
>> > And chapters pledged:
>> > Andy Updegrove, Introduction to the book
>> > Andrew Adams, The Open vs Closed Debate
>> > Andrew Katz, Towards a Functional Licence for Open Hardware
>> > Jochen Friedrich, Untitled
>> > All, please send in your chapters as soon as possible in ODT or DOC
>> > format.
>> >
>> > Plus I have one problem chapter:
>> > Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards in chemistry: The Blue
>> > Obelisk five years on
>> > By Peter Murray-Rust
>> > Peter, I can't get my LaTex tools to open this document as provided
>> > (attached). I get errors when I attempt to do so and this makes conversion
>> > impossible. Can you provide it in a ODT, RTF or DOC format?
>> >
>> > All authors, please check the draft for errors and necessary
>> > corrections.
>> >
>> > I would like to try and finish the book by end of July at latest so
>> > submissions would need to arrive two weeks before that.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Shane
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jun 5, 2014, at 20:08 , Shane Coughlan <***@openforumeurope.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Dear all
>> > >
>> > > I want to reboot our book. It's been pending a while. Some chapters
>> > > are in, some chapters are pledged as below. Just a reminder: this book will
>> > > be a collection of previously published research around Open Innovation to
>> > > complement our book of essays around the topic last year.
>> > >
>> > > If you have pledged a chapter, can you give me a timescale for
>> > > submitting it? I would like to try and wrap up submissions for end of month.
>> > >
>> > > Also, I wanted to double-check with Chris Marsden and Jochen Friedrich
>> > > if you would be interested in providing a chapter consisting of previously
>> > > published work?
>> > >
>> > > Finally, if anyone else wants to submit a chapter of previously
>> > > published work, now is the moment to speak up.
>> > >
>> > > The chapters already in are:
>> > > Mathieu Paapst, Four dimensions affecting policy resistance in IT
>> > > procurement
>> > > Cameron Neylon, 2012: The year it all changed in open access
>> > > Tineke M. Egyedi, Standards and Sustainable Infrastructures: Matching
>> > > Compatibility Strategies with System Flexibility Objectives
>> > > Peter Murray-Rust, Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards in
>> > > chemistry: The Blue Obelisk five years on
>> > > Andrew Katz, Towards a Functional Licence for Open Hardware
>> > >
>> > > And chapters pledged:
>> > > Andrew Adams, The Open vs Closed Debate
>> > > Karsten Gerloff, Title pending
>> > > Andy Updegrove, Introduction to the book
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > > Shane
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > <Four Dimensions - OFA
>> > > EDITION.docx><Egyedi_Standards_Sustain_Infras_Comp_Strategies_Felx_Obj.docx><Nature-Commentary2012.docx>
>> > > --
>> > > Shane Coughlan
>> > > Fellow Coordinator
>> > > OpenForum Academy
>> > > e: ***@openforumeurope.org
>> > > p: +81 (0) 80 4035 8083
>> > > w: www.openforumeurope.org
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Shane Coughlan
>> > Fellow Coordinator
>> > OpenForum Academy
>> > e: ***@openforumeurope.org
>> > p: +81 (0) 80 4035 8083
>> > w: www.openforumeurope.org
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > --
>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "ofafellows"
>> > group.
>> >
>> > To post to this group, send email to ***@openforumeurope.org
>> >
>> >
>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>> > an email to fellows+***@openforumeurope.org.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Peter Murray-Rust
>> > Reader in Molecular Informatics
>> > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
>> > University of Cambridge
>> > CB2 1EW, UK
>> > +44-1223-763069
>>
>> --
>> Shane Coughlan
>> Fellow Coordinator
>> OpenForum Academy
>> e: ***@openforumeurope.org
>> p: +81 (0) 80 4035 8083
>> w: www.openforumeurope.org
>>
>
>
> --
> Peter Murray-Rust
> Reader in Molecular Informatics
> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> University of Cambridge
> CB2 1EW, UK
> +44-1223-763069
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition
> Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows
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Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/)
Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
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Peter Murray-Rust
2014-07-09 07:12:07 UTC
Permalink
Egon,
Could you please convert this to an ODT and send to Shane? Thanks.

P.



On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Egon Willighagen <***@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Dear Peter, Shane,
>
> Without having seen the error messages, I would guess she is missing
> the BioMed Central template...
>
> Shane, the full source code, including BioMed Central templates, can
> be found here: https://github.com/bopaper/bopaper
>
> Egon
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Dear List,
> > We are republishing the Blue Obelisk paper as part of a volume published
> by
> > Open Forum Europe (of which I am a Fellow). [See below]
> >
> > Unfortunately the manuscript (which came from our DSpace) can't be read
> by
> > normal TeX readers. It's clearly a TeX document. Could someone [a]
> reformat
> > it so it works (I guess this is 5 mins max for an expert) and [b] explain
> > what has happened - repositories are meant to preserve things for re-use
> :-)
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Shane Coughlan <
> ***@openforumeurope.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Peter
> >>
> >> I can't reformat the document manually including all headings, footnotes
> >> etc. within reasonable time constraints. I need a version ready for word
> >> processing in ODT, DOC or PAGES format.
> >>
> >> I got the Tex document as per your mail in February:
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >> > From: Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk>
> >> > Subject: Re: Your chapter for the OFA book
> >> > Date: February 4, 2014 at 19:10:53 GMT+9
> >> > To: Shane Coughlan <***@openforumeurope.org>
> >> >
> >> > It was written in TeX and we have archived it and the BibTeX at:
> >> > https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/handle/1810/238393
> >> > Hope that hacks it.
> >> > I will be happy to add commentary if that's useful.
> >>
> >> It won't compile on my end for conversion to any word processing
> document.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Shane
> >>
> >> On Jul 9, 2014, at 15:30 , Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> > It opens in a text editor and can be read by humans. It seems to be
> >> > copy of our BMC article (which is CC-BY and as such can be reproduced
> >> > verbatim). My guess is that a small LaTeX tweak might be required.
> Where did
> >> > it come from? - was there another person involved?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Shane Coughlan
> >> > <***@openforumeurope.org> wrote:
> >> > Dear all
> >> >
> >> > Please find attached the first PDF draft of the new OpenForum Academy
> >> > book (reference exports in ODT, DOC and PAGES available).
> >> >
> >> > The chapters already in are:
> >> > Architecting the Future of Research Communication: Building
> the
> >> > Models and Analytics for an Open Access Future
> >> > By Cameron Neylon
> >> > Standards and Sustainable Infrastructures: > Matching
> >> > Compatibility Strategies with System Flexibility Objectives
> >> > By Tineke M. Egyedi
> >> > Four dimensions affecting policy resistance in IT procurement
> >> > By Mathieu Paapst
> >> > E-Governance in Public Sector > ICT Procurement: What is
> Shaping
> >> > Practice in Sweden?
> >> > By Bjorn Lundell
> >> >
> >> > And chapters pledged:
> >> > Andy Updegrove, Introduction to the book
> >> > Andrew Adams, The Open vs Closed Debate
> >> > Andrew Katz, Towards a Functional Licence for Open Hardware
> >> > Jochen Friedrich, Untitled
> >> > All, please send in your chapters as soon as possible in ODT or DOC
> >> > format.
> >> >
> >> > Plus I have one problem chapter:
> >> > Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards in chemistry: The
> Blue
> >> > Obelisk five years on
> >> > By Peter Murray-Rust
> >> > Peter, I can't get my LaTex tools to open this document as provided
> >> > (attached). I get errors when I attempt to do so and this makes
> conversion
> >> > impossible. Can you provide it in a ODT, RTF or DOC format?
> >> >
> >> > All authors, please check the draft for errors and necessary
> >> > corrections.
> >> >
> >> > I would like to try and finish the book by end of July at latest so
> >> > submissions would need to arrive two weeks before that.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Shane
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 5, 2014, at 20:08 , Shane Coughlan <***@openforumeurope.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Dear all
> >> > >
> >> > > I want to reboot our book. It's been pending a while. Some chapters
> >> > > are in, some chapters are pledged as below. Just a reminder: this
> book will
> >> > > be a collection of previously published research around Open
> Innovation to
> >> > > complement our book of essays around the topic last year.
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have pledged a chapter, can you give me a timescale for
> >> > > submitting it? I would like to try and wrap up submissions for end
> of month.
> >> > >
> >> > > Also, I wanted to double-check with Chris Marsden and Jochen
> Friedrich
> >> > > if you would be interested in providing a chapter consisting of
> previously
> >> > > published work?
> >> > >
> >> > > Finally, if anyone else wants to submit a chapter of previously
> >> > > published work, now is the moment to speak up.
> >> > >
> >> > > The chapters already in are:
> >> > > Mathieu Paapst, Four dimensions affecting policy resistance in IT
> >> > > procurement
> >> > > Cameron Neylon, 2012: The year it all changed in open access
> >> > > Tineke M. Egyedi, Standards and Sustainable Infrastructures:
> Matching
> >> > > Compatibility Strategies with System Flexibility Objectives
> >> > > Peter Murray-Rust, Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards in
> >> > > chemistry: The Blue Obelisk five years on
> >> > > Andrew Katz, Towards a Functional Licence for Open Hardware
> >> > >
> >> > > And chapters pledged:
> >> > > Andrew Adams, The Open vs Closed Debate
> >> > > Karsten Gerloff, Title pending
> >> > > Andy Updegrove, Introduction to the book
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards
> >> > >
> >> > > Shane
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > <Four Dimensions - OFA
> >> > >
> EDITION.docx><Egyedi_Standards_Sustain_Infras_Comp_Strategies_Felx_Obj.docx><Nature-Commentary2012.docx>
> >> > > --
> >> > > Shane Coughlan
> >> > > Fellow Coordinator
> >> > > OpenForum Academy
> >> > > e: ***@openforumeurope.org
> >> > > p: +81 (0) 80 4035 8083
> >> > > w: www.openforumeurope.org
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Shane Coughlan
> >> > Fellow Coordinator
> >> > OpenForum Academy
> >> > e: ***@openforumeurope.org
> >> > p: +81 (0) 80 4035 8083
> >> > w: www.openforumeurope.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > --
> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the
> "ofafellows"
> >> > group.
> >> >
> >> > To post to this group, send email to ***@openforumeurope.org
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> > an email to fellows+***@openforumeurope.org.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Peter Murray-Rust
> >> > Reader in Molecular Informatics
> >> > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> >> > University of Cambridge
> >> > CB2 1EW, UK
> >> > +44-1223-763069
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shane Coughlan
> >> Fellow Coordinator
> >> OpenForum Academy
> >> e: ***@openforumeurope.org
> >> p: +81 (0) 80 4035 8083
> >> w: www.openforumeurope.org
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Murray-Rust
> > Reader in Molecular Informatics
> > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> > University of Cambridge
> > CB2 1EW, UK
> > +44-1223-763069
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse
> > Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community
> Edition
> > Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows
> > Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blueobelisk-discuss mailing list
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> E.L. Willighagen
> Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT
> Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/)
> Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
> LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw
> Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/
> PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers
> ORCID: 0000-0001-7542-0286
>



--
Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
+44-1223-763069
Egon Willighagen
2014-07-09 07:14:07 UTC
Permalink
Peter,

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Could you please convert this to an ODT and send to Shane? Thanks.

I wish I had time... but I need to complete teaching-related tasks first :/

Egon

--
E.L. Willighagen
Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT
Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/)
Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw
Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/
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ORCID: 0000-0001-7542-0286
Peter Murray-Rust
2014-07-09 07:21:12 UTC
Permalink
Can someone else do it? There is a list of tools here for example ...
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/91040/from-tex-to-doc-format-is-it-possible


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Egon Willighagen <***@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Peter,
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Could you please convert this to an ODT and send to Shane? Thanks.
>
> I wish I had time... but I need to complete teaching-related tasks first :/
>
> Egon
>
> --
> E.L. Willighagen
> Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT
> Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/)
> Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
> LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw
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Peter Murray-Rust
2014-07-10 07:43:25 UTC
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Well nobody seemed interested in helping so I have to do it myself :-(
Please help if you can - I have to run the Jean-Claude meeting on Monday.

. I plan to try pandoc. Egon, does it REQUIRE the BMC stylesheet? Or can I
take the style sheet out of the TeX and just convert it anyhow?

And this is a sad example of preserving legacy systems.


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Can someone else do it? There is a list of tools here for example ...
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/91040/from-tex-to-doc-format-is-it-possible
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Egon Willighagen <
> ***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>> > Could you please convert this to an ODT and send to Shane? Thanks.
>>
>> I wish I had time... but I need to complete teaching-related tasks first
>> :/
>>
>> Egon
>>
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>
>
>
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> Peter Murray-Rust
> Reader in Molecular Informatics
> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> University of Cambridge
> CB2 1EW, UK
> +44-1223-763069
>



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University of Cambridge
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Egon Willighagen
2014-07-10 08:04:43 UTC
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On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> . I plan to try pandoc. Egon, does it REQUIRE the BMC stylesheet?
> Or can I take the style sheet out of the TeX and just convert it anyhow?

Yes, but I would indeed take the approach you suggest, and remove the
templates, and then replace the template commands with regular LaTeX
commands.

Please let me know if you did not manage to get it done by Tuesday...
that day I should be able to find some time to help out.

Egon

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Peter Murray-Rust
2014-07-10 08:12:12 UTC
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Tuesday should be fine, thanks


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Egon Willighagen <
***@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> > . I plan to try pandoc. Egon, does it REQUIRE the BMC stylesheet?
> > Or can I take the style sheet out of the TeX and just convert it anyhow?
>
> Yes, but I would indeed take the approach you suggest, and remove the
> templates, and then replace the template commands with regular LaTeX
> commands.
>
> Please let me know if you did not manage to get it done by Tuesday...
> that day I should be able to find some time to help out.
>
> Egon
>
> --
> E.L. Willighagen
> Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT
> Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/)
> Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
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Daniel Leidert
2014-07-10 09:42:23 UTC
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Peter Murray-Rust wrote:

> Well nobody seemed interested in helping so I have to do it myself :-(
> Please help if you can - I have to run the Jean-Claude meeting on Monday.
> I plan to try pandoc.
[snip]

The last time I checked - around half a year ago - there were no open-source
or widespread tools to do, what you want *and* create a reasonable result.
Creating .DOC or .ODT files from TeX input AFAIK is not a trivial use case ...
although I never understood, why this (still) is the case for the XML-based
ODT standard and standard TeX modules. Both TeX and XML are markup languages?!

However, pandoc never worked for me and latex2rtf created a .DOC without
any formatting, missing images, broken citations (seems my style wasn't
supported) and so on. So this resulted in a lot of manual work. So IMHO:
What you request is not an easy task even for experienced users and
especially if you expect some custom layout in the result.

There are some (free) online services, where you can push the .TEX source
and they then send you a .DOC or .ODT after processing it. There are even
some commercial tools, which do cost something.

I would highly appreciate better FOSS tools to create .ODT or .DOC from
TeX input. But I guess one of the main issues here is, that TeX can be
extended with modules and such a tool would probably never be able to
deal with unknown-to-him TeX modules.

Regards, Daniel
Noel O'Boyle
2014-07-10 10:02:54 UTC
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Ask the third party to send you their latex file, and just copy and paste
the paragraphs in. 15 minutes work max.

- Noel


On 10 July 2014 10:42, Daniel Leidert <***@gmx.net> wrote:

> Peter Murray-Rust wrote:
>
> > Well nobody seemed interested in helping so I have to do it myself :-(
> > Please help if you can - I have to run the Jean-Claude meeting on Monday.
> > I plan to try pandoc.
> [snip]
>
> The last time I checked - around half a year ago - there were no
> open-source
> or widespread tools to do, what you want *and* create a reasonable result.
> Creating .DOC or .ODT files from TeX input AFAIK is not a trivial use case
> ...
> although I never understood, why this (still) is the case for the XML-based
> ODT standard and standard TeX modules. Both TeX and XML are markup
> languages?!
>
> However, pandoc never worked for me and latex2rtf created a .DOC without
> any formatting, missing images, broken citations (seems my style wasn't
> supported) and so on. So this resulted in a lot of manual work. So IMHO:
> What you request is not an easy task even for experienced users and
> especially if you expect some custom layout in the result.
>
> There are some (free) online services, where you can push the .TEX source
> and they then send you a .DOC or .ODT after processing it. There are even
> some commercial tools, which do cost something.
>
> I would highly appreciate better FOSS tools to create .ODT or .DOC from
> TeX input. But I guess one of the main issues here is, that TeX can be
> extended with modules and such a tool would probably never be able to
> deal with unknown-to-him TeX modules.
>
> Regards, Daniel
>
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Peter Murray-Rust
2014-07-10 10:12:07 UTC
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On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Noel O'Boyle <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ask the third party to send you their latex file,
>

You mean their stylesheet?


> and just copy and paste the paragraphs in. 15 minutes work max.
>
> - Noel
>
>
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Noel O'Boyle
2014-07-10 10:33:11 UTC
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The whole thing. Whatever they were pasting the original file into.

- Noel


On 10 July 2014 11:12, Peter Murray-Rust <***@cam.ac.uk> wrote:

>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Noel O'Boyle <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ask the third party to send you their latex file,
>>
>
> You mean their stylesheet?
>
>
>> and just copy and paste the paragraphs in. 15 minutes work max.
>>
>> - Noel
>>
>>
> --
> Peter Murray-Rust
> Reader in Molecular Informatics
> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> University of Cambridge
> CB2 1EW, UK
> +44-1223-763069
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